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OOC: Back in the Day...
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#441s**t I'M A @!#$ING BIRD
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#442Okay, taking bets: which piece of Moruz will Muro rip off next? -
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#443If Mr. Happy is torn off I think Moruz will retire :D
But seriously... at this rate he'll be a torso by chapter IV! Anyone got some glue?
And I still count that as a victory, even if it didn't happen as acrobatically as hoped :D The giant fled, perhaps even fatally wounded, and in a single attack, no less! *ties iron spikes to his Ouzala*
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#444Er, Valadaar has been quoted as calling for a cleric (Vee did)
and apparently Kadarin is helping Rai?(Vee again).
:what:
:)
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#445Yeah, both of those came from the same post which I misread as being yours. -
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#446mmmmm, lets all read everything thouroughly folks....The End is Nigh! -
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#447Oh and SE, you're 2nd level, you bumrushed a Stone Giant(!) with an iron spike!! (@!#$KK!!!!) and lived!!
I would say, YES, that certainly qualifies as a victory! Thats why Axtrami gave you two eyes, so you always have one to spare.
(and you ruined the giant's singing voice too!) :P
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#448oooh!! do I detect a slight shift in philosophy, noble Aerex? :P nice post. -
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#449una questione stupida:
being a priest of a positive deity, I turn undead. can I also spontaneously cast healing spells? Like, I have Shield of Faith prepared, drop it, and cast cure light wounds for 1d8+1? -
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#450yep, no "memorization" involved as you are a priest. So spells are interchangeable, yes. -
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#451wow, I'm getting excited! I like the way its all coming together. :up:
welcome Ancient Evil One! (;)) and welcome Wanderer!
where did that damn bird go? :P
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#452Welcome, wizard! Welcome, bard!
I-say, could someone post an inventory of the gear we have? T'would make things so much easier! -
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#453SE is right of course, but then again, i asked the same thing a while ago :P.
It seems to me that xp, treasure, equipment, etc is not something Forum gamers seem to enjoy keeping track of, despite the initial excitement of 'old schooling' :(
But whatever. I may be a nice, lenient, carefree GM :P, but if you fellas (and Ria) dont plan ahead, be aware of your useful equipment, and work together, I can promise you one thing. The evil Wizard will slay you all.
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#454OMFG! It's like a freiking "let's see who can type the longerest post" contest. :shock:
Oh, and SE, I coulda used that eye. Necromancers are the ultimate in recycling. -
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#455
OMFG! It's like a freiking "let's see who can type the longerest post" contest. :shock:
Oh, and SE, I coulda used that eye. Necromancers are the ultimate in recycling.
Player: Oh noes! More than five lines of text!
*Player breaks down and cries*
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#456Oi? Am I dead? :shock: Oh-my-godess's glowy behind, if she had one, being snakey from the waist down, great figure by the way, no excess fat... duh. Must be dead, thinking such Elfy thought.
Like... duh.
Hm. I wasn't geedy, just didn't want Vee to go alone. Once I wasn't greedy :D -
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#457Wow.
Note to new players - Position of Cleric is now open. Yet Again.
Sheesh. :)
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#458Vee really did want to look around the tomb a bit, decipher some runes, some archeology type stuff, aside from boozing, wenching and getting into trouble he does happen to like that underground business. -
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#459ok, how's that then? (last post) -
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#460At the rate you're losing body parts, SE, Moruz will be a disembodied head with no nose, ears, tongue, or jaw by the end of the game. He'll just have an eye that will blink at us in Morse code to communicate. -
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#461Well, I'm still a fucking bird. I don't really know what to do. Dearest GM, would it be plausible to roll willpower or something like that to see if Jjuldae can make himself turn human again (naked and dripping wet, of course) -
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#462yes, but only because you did such a wonderful rendition of an osprey. Now I know how they think. :P (will send you a PM) -
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#463Player 'Fun Info' Handout #1, courtesy of Wanderer
A Word on Glass.
Raw Materials.
Sand, Soda Ash, Limestone, Dolomite, Felspar, Sodium Sulphate, Coal Dust & Cullet (Broken Glass). Different agents may also be added to the batch for finishing and colouring purposes.
Colors and tints.
The following agents can be added to the batch to create the different colored glasses you will encounter.
Green -Iron & Chromium oxides.
Blue -Cobalt & Copper oxides.
Violet -Manganese oxide.
Amber -Carbon & Sulphur.
Red -Selenium & Cadmium sulphate.
Traditionally, the glass was melted in furnaces from the raw ingredients of sand, limestone, soda ash, potash and other compounds. The transformation of raw materials into glass takes place well above 2000°F (1100°C); the glass turns into a burnt orange color, the glass is then left to "fine out" (allowing the bubbles to rise out of the mass), and then the working temperature is reduced in the furnace to around 2000°F (1100°C). "Soda-lime" glass remains somewhat plastic and workable, however, as low as 1000°F (550°C).
Glassblowing involves three furnaces. The first, which contains a crucible of molten glass, is simply referred to as "the furnace." The second is called the "Glory Hole", and is used to reheat a piece in between steps of working with it. The final furnace is called the "lehr" or "annealer", and is used to slowly cool the glass, over a period of a few hours to a few days, depending on the size of the pieces. This keeps the glass from cracking due to thermal stress. Historically, all three furnaces were contained in one, with a set of progressively cooler chamber for each of the three purposes.
Mesopotamian reference (translated from cuneiform)
When you set up the foundation of a good furnace to make glass, you first search in a favorable month for a day of good omen, and only then can you set up the foundation of the furnace. As soon as you have finished building the furnace you go and place Kubu-images there. No insider or stranger should enter the building; an unclean person must not even pass in front of the images. You regularly perform libation offerings before them. On the day when you plan to make (glass), you make a sheep sacrifice before the Kubu-images (religions statues); you place juniper incense on the incense burner; you pour out a libation (drink honoring a deity) of honey and liquid butter; only then can you make the fire in the hearth of the furnace and place the glass in the furnace.
The wood that you burn in the hearth of the furnace should be thick, peeled poplar wood, which has no knots, bound together with leather straps, cut in the month of the Abu (July or August). Only this wood should be in the hearth of the furnace. The persons whom you allow to come near the furnace have to be clean; only then can you allow them to come to the furnace.
If you want to produce zagindurû-colored (blue) glass, you finely grind separately, ten minas (about one pound) of immanakku-stone (quartz), fifteen minas of naga-plant ashes, and 1 2/3 minas of 'white plant.' You mix these together. You place the mixture into a cold furnace that has four openings, and you arrange the mixture between its openings. You keep a good and smokeless fire burning...As soon as the mixture glows yellow, you pour it on a kiln fired brick and this is called zukû-glass...
Celtic Glass info
The Roman author, Elder Pliny, explains the invention of glass in his writings Natural History. "A trading ship carrying nitrum anchored (off the coast of modern Lebanon); its crew went ashore to prepare their dinner. Finding no stones on the beach with which to prop their cooking pots over the fire the sailors used lumps of nitrum from their ship to support their cookware. When these became heated, they combined with the sand from the beach to form a 'strange liquid that flowed in streams; and this, it is said, was the origin of glass.'"1 The basic science behind this phenomenon described by Pliny is the mixture of silica (pulverized quartz or quartz sand), nitrum (basically soda) and lime (most likely also contained in the beach sand).2 Early Celtic glass was most likely prepared in this simple manner. The knowledge behind the combination of ingredients for the production of glass did not however, occur quite as haphazardly as Pliny suggests. It originated farther east than the shores of Lebanon, in the ancient country of Mesopotamia during the third millennium BC, where the recipe was written on clay tablets in cuneiform script.3 The knowledge of glass making made its way through history and was probably passed on by way of Phoenician traders to early continental Celtic tribes. Either creating their own glass from raw materials, importing raw glass from Greek city states, or melting down imported glass trading vessels (perhaps those that carried wine from the south), the Celts began to incorporate this new medium into their artistic repertoire.
The difficulty in fashioning glass artifacts, producing raw glass or the expense of importing raw glass lead to a very centralized craft production and distribution. "Evidence suggest that the manufacture of glass objects was amongst the most centralized and specialized of any of the branches of craft production in the late La Téne period."4 Localized glass production meant that larger oppida would contain a majority of glass artifacts. Major glass working oppida during the La Téne period were: Stradonice, Staré Hradisko and Manching. Peak glass production occurred during the late La Téne C2 and D periods.5
Most glass artifacts dating to the Celtic La Téne period were core formed or rod formed. Core formed objects were made by molding molten glass around a removable core or center. This core usually consisted of a combination of dung and clay mixed with water, so that it may be shaped and attached to some type of metal rod. The core was then covered with glass and shaped in a kiln using the metal rod and other tools. Patterns and colors were added to the artifact using the rod forming method or a variation thereof. This method was most commonly used in the production of glass beads. In the rod forming technique, a glob of molten glass is attached to the end of a rod. The glass is then heated in a kiln until it is malleable. At this stage the glass can be shaped into a bead or other object. To apply patterns or other colors to either rod formed or core formed artifacts, glass of another color is attached to the rod, heated and then drawn out and around the object (in the case of spirals for example) or pressed onto the object (as in the case of circles or dots). The entire artifact can be reheated and reworked numerous times to create complex patterns and combinations of colors. [This section on glass forming techniques was demonstrated and developed by Bill Gudenrath in Harry Abrams: Glass 5,000 Years pgs. 214-6]
Common Celtic patterns employed in the creation of glass artifacts are for the most part very simple and geometric. Inclusion of these on glass objects may have been believed to enhance the properties of the glass itself. These patterns are most apparent in glass beads. One of the most widely used is the spiral pattern. Since prehistoric times spirals have been associated with death. They may have also been used as solar symbols. Almost, if not as common as spirals are patterns consisting of concentric circles. These resemble eyes and may have been used as protection against misfortune; as in the 'evil eye.' Triskels, s-scrolls, running-dog patterns, and chevrons (all indicators of the La Téne style) are also quite commonly found among Celtic glass artifacts of the time.
Glass, as a material, had special meaning for Celtic tribes. Early on this new product was of great value not only because of its scarcity but because it resembled semi-precious stones. Most scholars agree that the wide variety of colors found in glass are the result of producers attempts to copy those stones. This new glass material also resembled amber, which traditionally had 'magnetic power.'6 The similarities among semi-precious stones, amber and glass and well as the scarcity factor endowed glass with 'magical' properties for Celtic tribes. The shaping of glass and the addition of patterns enhance these qualities; thus glass begins to be incorporated and used for adornments in Celtic societies.
In the preparation of this small catalogue the portrayal of a variety of uses for Celtic glass artifacts is attempted. Included in the catalogue are entries for beads, bracelets, gaming pieces, cult objects, and necklaces. Glass beads are the most common surviving of the artifacts. Their size and construction account for much of this survival. During the Roman period some beads were used for votive purposes at sacred shrines, wells and temples. Of note here, the temples were of both Roman and pre Roman Celtic types.7 A major use for beads was in the crafting of brooches. Often brooches were worn in pairs on the shoulder region and connected with strings of beads. A string of 176 beads found on a site in Essex, England was used to connect two two gilt bronze saucer brooches.8 Several other brooches also from the site were found to be connected with strings of beads.
The discovery of glass within a grave context seems to be quite a factor in determining the nature of who is buried in the tumulus or grave. More often than not, skeletal remains dating back to this period are completely destroyed by acidic soil; all that is left is a silhouette of noticeable chemical compounds left by the body. Usually when glass is found at these or any site where the sex of the skeleton is unknown, the prognosis is female. M.U. and W.T. Jones write "Beads as well as brooches are the principal indication of a woman's grave," in reference to their analysis of excavations at Mucking, Essex, England.9
Glass jewelry played a part in the identification of the Rheinheim "Princess" tumulus in southern Germany. "As the body had been buried with 13 glass beads the opinion has been that the deceased was a girl," states Tove Hjørungdal in A Gender Critical Perspective.10
1. Abrams (1991) pg. 21
2. Abrams (1991) pg. 8
3. Abrams (1991) pg. 8
4. Gebhard I pg. 112
5. Cumberpatch pg. 67
6. Guido (1978) pg. 22
7. Guido (1978) pg. 38
8. Jones (1975) pg. 182
9. Jones (1975)pg. 183
10. Hjørungdal pg. 23
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#464Random addition to Muro's post: glass dust thrown in the face is nasty. Spread it on the ground in front of a marching army, and the army won't be marching for much longer. -
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#465Muro I would wait upon the advice of our returned friend. If not, I will simply try to get us along the boulder strewn path durring the night.. to hide ourselves above the monastery for that next day. -
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#466Uhm... Quoting MoonHunter: "hide above the monestary"...
[img width=310 height=400]http://perso.orange.fr/revue.shakti/stmaig4.jpg
This picture sure doesn't leave much space for hiding above, unless they plan to hide on the roof of Alzamus' Tower, or in the bell tower...
Of course this is Muro's call, but I'd expect my charmed benefactors would guard the place, especially as Alzamus is of the nervous sort. I at least hope it requires some effort to hide inside the monestary grounds. -
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#467I didnt quite get the "above the monastery" thing either. I guess he meant they make their way around the other side of this picture, where a blocked path spirals up the rock (under cover of night)
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#468And where oh where is the Captain? Flying on borrowed wings.
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#469Honestly, I"m not sure how to proceed here... -
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#470Alright, I got it now -
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#471It is easy really: Fly down to the monestary gardens. Talk to wizard. Admire him and serve him ever thereafter.
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#472Yeah, i'd do what AG said - it's obvious he's gonna win anyway :D
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#473he will slay you all :twisted:
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#474Okay, having never seen the image before, and obviously not quite understanding all the location (I got was high and remote monestery), I have misposted. There is no place for the trail here. What shall we do, as recon seems to be in order?
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#475The trail could be on the other side of the mountain... perhaps just a quarter of the way up? Then there are the caves...
Just an idea, Muro! -
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#476Of course, why we would graze sheep on the side of a rock... but stranger things have happened. Perhaps just some careful sliding along a ledge will bring us about to the unblocked section of the path up. If that seems plausable... -
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#477There IS a way up on the other side, AG is correct. Wanna know how I know that for sure? Because that picture is of a real life monastery, and the other side isnt as vertical as it may seem. The real life monks went up the trail, no problem. :P
Anyhoo, going up is not a problem (except for clearing lots of boulders put there by the stone giant to discourage easy ascent/descent.)
The option of "tunnels", was merely provided in case you didnt want to just walk up the gate and say, "Hi, we're here".
So, lets recap. Moruz, Henge, and the undead Aethelstan are heading up now, yes?
The other companions are literally hours away. So we can do one of two things here.
The Three Amigos can go up now, with the rest of the party to follow shortly...OR, the Three Amigos can simply "wait" a bit, and everyone joins one big group. (see Wulf's..."Aerex spies something in the mists" line)
Let me know asap please. I was planning on posting tonight (with some liberties taken), getting folks up to the actual gate/door of the monastery.
If you people have a specific plan, let me know asap please, so I dont make your charries do something that you didnt want them doing.
Will await feedback. If none comes, I'm posting.
Poor Donovan suffers while we languish :P
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#478Poor Donovan suffers while we languish
Never fear, bird man is here! -
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#479YAH!!! The Osprey Cometh! -
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#480Well, I believe Moruz, Henge and Aethelstan are waltzing up the trail to the main entrance. Once Moruz finds out exactly what is going on in there, he at least will try and avoid contact - hide, take the quiet corridoors and generally try to avoid notice. He would like to snatch up a bunch of the broken glass strewn about the place, and make his way to the kitchens! Anywho - that's Moruz's wish, i'm not sure about the other two, exactly.