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Why I love Opera

Started by Strolen Jan 5, 2005 61 posts Locked

  1. Why I love Opera

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    Why I love Opera

    By: Strolen.

    I like Opera because it is neat. It is cool and does fun things that are fun.



    Keep stumbling on new things. The full screen already rocks more than Led Zepplin...okay, well. Pretend I didn't say that, but it is still awesome.

    I often browse full screen which doesn't have a vertical scroll bar (who needs it when you have a mouse wheel anyway) but you can also toggle the scroll bar off anyway since it is pretty useless. Use 1 and 2 to cycle through open pages.

    Toggle scroll bars: Ctrl+F7
    Toggle address bar: Ctrl+F8
    Toggle main menu: Ctrl+F11

    Shift + clicking link = opening a page in a new window, which I do very very very, ok, so often I should probably change my preferences to open everything into a new window. But I don't.

    F7 is handy to view a pages size in bytes. (The post a thread is 40803 bytes)

    F8 to go to the title bar ready to type a new address.

    My newest favorite is the zoom that I reremembered tonight and started using again.

    zoom using 10% increments: zoom in 0 zoom out 9
    zoom using 100% increments: zoom in 8 zoom out 7
    snap page back to 100% (normal) 6

    I like smaller text so I shrink it a little bit.

    I use Opera Mail as my primary mail client. I used to use calypso but I use Opera so often I figured why have another program open when Opera does it so well anyway.

    Also the fact that you can save a webpage with all its images is handy too. Do that sometimes to figure out a design or learn how they did something in css.

    Those are all the ones I use somewhat steadily. Just got excited when I accidently put my screen larger because I forgot I could do that. Now I use it all the time again.

    Ctrl-b for a quick link of all the keyboard goodies.

  2. Why I love Opera

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    Did you realize that you've turned me into an Opera junkie? When I use a different computer, I get all confused now, especially if I have to use IE.

  3. Why I love Opera

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    What is Opera? An internet system?

  4. Why I love Opera

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    UNCIVILIZED INFIDEL!!!!!!!!!!!


    First
    http://www.searchlores.org/tuttiope.htm

    If you need more
    http://tntluoma.com/beyond30/2003/08/opera_vs_mozilla

    Then
    http://www.opera.com/


    deep breathes

    goooooosefraaaabbbaaaaa

  5. Why I love Opera

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    http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

  6. Why I love Opera

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    When i first saw this topic, I thought you were talking about opera, as in theater.

  7. Why I love Opera

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    I tried to view Rob Lang's site using Opera but it "didn't support" the .xml format.

    Are xsl stylesheets interpreted differently in Opera than in IE? IE does have a reputation for being too lenient and accepting too many errors.

    Any ideas Strolen?

  8. Why I love Opera

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    It pulls up just fine with Firefox & Mozilla.

  9. Why I love Opera

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    Kudos to Kinslayer for his recognition of the greatest internet browser.

    Why I love Mozilla

    By: Nosredna

    Internet browser: Mozilla Firefox

    Mozilla Firefox is an internet browser that is tab based. When you click on a link with the scroller on the mouse (if you have one) then it will open that link in a new tab. Very useful for switching between sites. There are many themes and extensions for it. Three of the main extensions I am using are-: Gmail Notifier, EggOn, FoxyTunes.

    Gmail Notifier-: Pretty self explanatory. Its a little icon near the loading bar that will notify you when you have a new email in your Gmail account. Click on it and it will take you to Gmail and if you have the Remember Me box ticked (reccomended) then it will automatically log you in.

    EggOn-: Wonderful little extension this. If you decide to play some online game and want to restrict yourself from going overboard then you click on the little egg icon, near to where the Gmail Notifier would be, and choose from a Soft Egg, a Medium Egg and a Hard Egg. It will start an unseen timer. A Soft Egg would be a shorter time limit than a Hard Egg. When the time is up it will bring up a message telling you "Your egg is now cooked to perfection" and you now have the choice to stop playing or to cook another egg :wink:

    FoxyTunes-: It's a kind of media player that occupys most of the space next to EggOn. It will use the media player you are using, in my case this is WinAmp, and its sort of like minimizes it. But heres the twist. It minimizes it into Firefox. You can browse for file to play, next, previous etc,etc. Really helpful seeing as I am a lazy guy :P

    If you hold down Ctrl and scroll up or down it will zoom in or out.

    If you press Ctrl and the tab button it will switch betwwen tabs.

    If you press Ctrl and F4 it will close the current tab.

    Email Client: Mozilla Thunderbird

    I haven't really tried Opera Mail so I can't say that Thunderbird is better or otherwise. But I can definetly say it is better than Outlook. Much better. It's a POP email client. It is actualy a bit of a hassle to get set up but afterwards its smooth sailing. You have the choice to have all your email stay both on the site and on the client or just straight to the client. I don't think it has themes but it does have invisible extensions that make your life alot easier. Like Next and previous buttons where the email list is as opposed to in the actual email.

  10. Why I love Opera

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    Firefox is a rip off of Opera, which has all of the features you listed.


    And everyone sing: "Opera, Opera über alles, Über alles in der Welt, Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze Brüderlich zusammenhält."


    Sorry, but all these years of paining myself through the Java vs C/C++, Linux/Unix vs Microsoft and Browser X vs Browser Y discussions is at an end. There is usually a upside and a downside to everything. Why can't people just understand that? Read some books good people and make up your own opinions. You don't have to recite all the hype and forum talk out there!

    Lies you hear on the web:
    Java is slow -NO, poor programmers make slow Java. Java was less than the hype wanted it to be. That is all. The truth: Java is a logical piece of beauty, C is a nice language I use for research. Smooth, fast and simple (I lie, I lie. Don't tell mum). There is no superior tool, only the right tool for the job.

    Linux is of superior quality -NO, as a server running without X, Linux is indeed superior. But as a development platform I have had fatal system hangs more often on Linux than on modern MS systems. When you run X, things get more complicated.

    Windows OS is less secure than Linux -NO! Linux is more secure purely because it gets targetted less often than Windows servers. There are more security holes in Linux than in Windows. All in all Windows IS indeed less secure, but not because of the OS. It has more enemies than Linux.

    Linux is user hostile -NO! New Linux distros are MORE user friendly than the newer windows versions and is currently my preferred development platform (Once I learnt which configurations to avoid and which tools were of poor quality).

    Conclusion: There are bound to come new "gurus" with their own smart-ass opinion on anything. Just because X says it is so, doesn't mean it is true. Do I want to defend this rant? No. It is pointless. It is like discussing politics and religion; more likely to introduce you to new enemies, than to actually achieve something.

    Just read a book! Make up your own opinion.

    Sorry Nosredna, this was in no way meant as an assault on you. I guess Firefox is ok, but there are serious issues with that browser too, just like with all the rest (IE vulnerable, Firefox handles scripting poorly(try the chat), Opera obviously does not support XML all too well.)

    Take care

  11. Why I love Opera

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    Thanks for the heads up about Icar not working in Opera. I respect the browser but did not code for it. I coded for Firefox and IE - the largest market share. I'd lean towards Firefox because of the rather splendid extra features but I would not enter the colloseum to fight for it's honor.

    I don't really have any preference to broswer beyond finding IE frustrating. Shoddy implementation of standards that have been released long ago is just not acceptable for the largest software company in the world. Head in the sand treatment of other people's standards is only going to leave users sore. It's also IE's fault that HTML got as shabby as it did.

    It's odd that Opera does not support XML/XSL sites because the standard for doing so was created in 2000 and finalised very quickly. IE is normally the last browser to catch up.

    I shall endeavour to create an Opera friendly version of the site.

  12. Why I love Opera

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    Sorry Nosredna, this was in no way meant as an assault on you. I guess Firefox is ok, but there are serious issues with that browser too, just like with all the rest (IE vulnerable, Firefox handles scripting poorly(try the chat), Opera obviously does not support XML all too well.)


    No offence taken. You do have some good points there though. I suppose every browser has its ups and every browser also has its downs. You know what we need to do. We need to make a super browser. Lets think of a name...
    ...How about Nosrednos. Thats a cool name :wink:

  13. Why I love Opera

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    It is a fine browser, this Firefox...

    ...but how do you make it work with a chatroom? Say, THE Strolen's Citadel chatroom?

    The damn thing keeps refreshing over and over, which is miserable if the connection is slow, and it doesn't show things said before.


    So, Opera/Firefox junkies, what is your solution?

  14. Why I love Opera

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    How did all this Mozilla crap and debate get into my lovingly inspired ode to Opera?

    I didn't intend to start a debate agains the evils of IE or inadequate duplication of specifications that Mozilla got from Opera, I simply wanted to voice my love of the most pure and loving piece of web browsing software, Opera.

    Not sure about the XML. Opera is usually the leader in following specifications as close to the letter as possible.
    http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/
    http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_browsers.asp

    Am not implying that Icar is out of specs either, wouldn't presume to do that since there are so many variables. I didn't look at the stylesheet but icar doesn't seem overly complex. All I get is the text when I view it from Opera. No idea....

  15. Why I love Opera

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    Deserved a bump with the latest news.

    I have been rejoicing for a bit now but forgot all about posting something about it.

    Bad Strolen, Bad.

    OPERA IS NOW FREE

    No excuses now you IE cattle!!!!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Opera will rule the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11one!!1oneone

  16. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Deserved a bump with the latest news.

    I have been rejoicing for a bit now but forgot all about posting something about it.

    Bad Strolen, Bad.

    OPERA IS NOW FREE

    No excuses now you IE cattle!!!!!!!!!  MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Opera will rule the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!11one!!1oneone


    Just heard about the removal of the licensing fee. No more Firefox for me  :hyper:

  17. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Hmmmmmm.....  :?

  18. Re: Why I love Opera

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    If you read slashdot.com then you already know but....

    Opera has just become the second browser after Safari to be able to pass completely the famous ACID2 test. Mark Wilton-Jones is running a little article on the history of the Opera and ACID tests. Of course, it includes a screenshot of Opera 9 showing the nice happy face saying "Hello world!".

    http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/operaStuff/acid/

  19. Re: Why I love Opera

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    OPERA 9

    Woooohooooo!

  20. Re: Why I love Opera

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    ...with the fancy little screenshots when you hover over the tab...

  21. Re: Why I love Opera

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    And now with torrent capability.

    And it is still the fastest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z5U6rTcwZ8

  22. Re: Why I love Opera

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    More and more internet surfers use Firefox...
    Why?
    Why?
    WHY?

    Why they would escape MSIE is understandable, especially now that Internet Exploder v7 is on the market, but... Why would someone use that retro and painfully inelegant monstrosoty called Firefox?

    True, there are cool addins like Firebug, but... Is that enough? Firefox feels dated and the entire user experience is poor compared to Opera. The only thing about Firefox that is good, is that they copy Opera extensively. I can understand why.

    Seriously people: Time to ditch Firefox. It ain't worth shit!

  23. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I use Firefox occasionally, mostly when I'm using my dad's computer (because I can't get him to install Opera).  It's... okay.  But once you're used to Opera, it's maddening.  Most of the stuff that Firefox does, Opera did it first, and it did it better.

  24. Re: Why I love Opera

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    It is official: The lord of the citadel is switching to fireflux.

    I hereby dub this thread the: "STROLEN IS A BLACKHEART" thread.

  25. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I haven't yet sworn my name to it, but......

  26. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I understand now.  The balance must remain.  I switch to Opera, and Strolen switches to FF.  There must be a balance on the site or it'd all go *bloomy*.

  27. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Biggest issue for me is no 64bit Opera and there is too much involved with getting the 32bit installed with all the extra crap you need to support it. (linux)

    Firefox is just easier...plus it has Firebug.

    I still use it in Windoze though, don't need Firebug in windows.

  28. Re: Why I love Opera

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    As a Microsoft developer (working for an ISV - Independent Software Vendor) I do not get to use Linux overly much. In Windows, the unquestioningly superior OS *cough*, Opera is the browser of choice.

    Firefox has that Firebug that made even me happy. However Firefox feels... Awkward. Unnatural. Windows 95-ish. Archaic. Old. And EVERY damn feature they have is a straight RIP off Opera. They stole their tech. *mutters*

  29. Re: Why I love Opera

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    That is one thing that pisses me off about Firefox and IE. I keep reading articles comparing those two and talking about all these grand features they have...finally...specifically the tabs. And they talk like it is all new and shiny when Opera has had them for years. Then the big thing that Firefox finally put a close button on their tabs like it is the most novel thing ever. Gimmie a break. At least they gave credit to Apple when the spoke of Windows, they could at least give credit to Opera when they speak of Firefox and IE.

  30. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Opera 9.20

    For instance:
    Go to the strolen.com index.
    Right click on the search form field.
    Select "Create Search"
    Label it.

    Now, in the title bar where you can pick google, amazon, yahoo, etc, you now have the option to pick Strolen's Citadel as your default search. Even has the nifty icon. Put your search criteria in and it brings you to the search page.

    Sweet!

    ----

    Click on "new tab" and it now has what they call their "speed dial". Instead of a blank tab where you have to type or open a bookmare, it shows a page with 9 available screenshots of favorite webpages. Drag a webpage onto the "speed dial" number and it takes a screenshot and creates a hotlink. So when you open a new tab there is a nice organized set of 9 screenshots of your favorite webpages ready for an immediate click and visit.

    You can refresh the screenshots with a CTRL-R at any time.

    Awesome feature that I am sure IE and Mozilla will adopt immediately if they haven't already...then we will read in the magazines about this great "new" feature "they" came up with.

  31. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Dammit, now I have to go upgrade again... do you know how long it will take me to download that?

  32. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I am broadband so, 15 seconds.... :)

    Under 5MG....amazing it works isn't it. You couldn't guess something could be that efficient when you look at IE. Firefox is almost 6MG so a very nice size too.

  33. Re: Why I love Opera

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    You suck.

    I'm on 24k dailup.

  34. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I am using 9.20 now too. Other sweet fixes are:
    - Opera now works with everything microsoft (msdn.com, outlook web mail, sharepoint portal server) except ActiveX (and there is a reason why they do not support activex).

    Those fixes have been gradual during other updates, but with 9.20 I can actually use Opera in my Microsoft related work.

    Hooray for Opera Software!

  35. Re: Why I love Opera

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    *dusts off the Opera thread*

    Have a question for the more tech-minded Opera-philes of the place.  I use Livejournal for various things, and those things require me to have several different log-ins.  I know there's a plug-in thingy for Firefox that allows the user to switch between logins.  Does anyone know if there's a similar thingy for Opera?  It's still my browser of choice, but it's annoying to have to log out of one account then log into another to do stuff.

  36. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Got me stumped. I saw CookiePie but I don't know of anything in Opera that will allow it. I have started about even usage between Firefox and Opera when developing and use Opera only when just surfing. Firebug is just too irresistable and useful and Opera's answer to that (Dragonfly) is a bit cumbersome.

  37. Re: Why I love Opera

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    I am behind the times, what is Firebug, anyway?

  38. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Just the sweetest plugin ever.

    Mostly for CSS checking, DOM investigating, and html glancing.

  39. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Ah.  Well, then I suppose I don't need it, then.  :lol:

  40. Re: Why I love Opera

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    Firebug is great for web developers. For the rest of the world it is nothing to be concerned with.

    Currently I use IE (because all the Microsoft ActiveX controls need it), Firefox (for web design) and Opera (for personal browsing and advanced net-junkie functionality).

    Internet Explorer clearly is a cumbersome dinosaur, but when it comes to Firefox and IE it is so-so. Both are capable browsers with different areas of usage.

    Sadly I do not know of multiple user switching in Opera. Perhaps it could be a feature to be posted on their public forums, so that the devs can make it for us. It IS a sweet idea.

    My solution to the problem, as I prefer Opera for personal browsing, is to log out and in again with the magic wand. Granted it is not ideal.

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