Azriel Marquis delete 09/19

1. Azriel Marquis delete 09/19

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   If they edit their other entry maybe they will update this.
   
   Azriel Marquis | Dark Elf | Any | Female | Author: Artemis [ Print NPC ] [ Edit Post ]
   
   A troublesome elf with no past or future, straying to remember..
   
   
   Appearance
   Azriel is normally dressed in a black tunic with silver plated armour, bracers, and black gloves. She carries an acient sword with the powers of all the elements, fire, water, earth, and wind. She has dark hair which falls below her shoulders and gray eyes.
   
   Background
   A Dark Elf with a forgotten past. Azriel has no memories of her past life and only believes in what's ahead. Loved by none and hated by all is what she goes by, straying only to the path ahead of her. She has been rumoured to be a royal, but none have bothered to find out. She is from the forgotten city of Greyyond.
   
   Notes
   Azriel can be used in an plot or hooks. She is a mage/fighter also.

2. No point in keeping this, were it not for the comments:

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   EchoMirage Submitted: 09.11.04 16:00
   
   Another drow? Momma told me to stay away from drow, and for a good reason I guess.
   I know elves forget a lot, but the drow WILL know his past, WILL have some motives besides 'me evil' and WILL be rated badly if he's but a paper cutout...
   
   CaptainPenguin Submitted: 09.11.04 19:44
   
   WHY HAVE WE NOT GOTTEN PAST THIS?!!
   
   I'm sorry, I was out of line for saying that. I apologize, but in my defense, I'd like to say that if roleplayers have anything to say about it, the world's dominant species is NOT humans, but is, in fact, drow/dark elf assassins with no pasts, and/or amnesia, and who are hated.
   
   First of all- how does the sword have the power of the elements? Does it control those? What is its power?
   
   Second- the reason this character doesn't have a background is because the author is straight-up lazy. That is the only (somewhat) viable reason that I could give for a character not to have a background, and don't give me any of that amnesia bullshit. EVERYBODY HAS A PAST! And guess what, even if Captain Cliche the Dark Elf doesn't remember his past, he still has one, and WE NEED TO KNOW IT.
   
   Third- "she is a mage/fighter also". What the does that mean?
   
   Fourth- I don't ever want to see the name Azriel, EVER AGAIN!
   
   0/5.
   
   Scrasamax Submitted: 09.12.04 14:20
   
   I agree with everything the Captain has said.
   
   No more Drow, no more assassins, no more characters with unknown histories, or lost memories, or lost cities.
   
   Please.
   
   0/5
   
   EchoMirage Submitted: 09.12.04 14:55
   
   You know, Strolen should delete crappy posts from time to time.
   
   Saemond Submitted: 09.12.04 17:24
   
   I think there is room for assassins, and an occaisonal "dark elf" but strictly speaking drow are lame unless you are R.A. Salvatore.
   I think a compelling Drow campaign could be done if you had it so that the Drow truly believed themselves to be good and doing the "right" thing, just that thier moral subset was radically skewed.
   Salvatores new books look like they touch on this, as the Drow go search for thier spider queen who they think has abandoned them. (maybe I should read it)
   
   Scrasamax Submitted: 09.12.04 19:15
   
   Until someone comes up with an original application, or exceptional delivery of an assassin, I dont think there is much need for them. Despite all variation thus far, all assassins are invariably billy-bad-asses who have one goal, and that is to be as brutaly effective at killing sentient beings as possible. They invariably have the same backgrounds of harsh upbringings, slaughtered families, or the passe no memory of their childhood. Unitl there is a way to effectively break this mold and create a new aspect of the assassin, we are better off without the same old character dressed in black with a bad attitude, loner mentality, and cliche name.
   
   As for the Drow...I think the world of fantasy would be much less mentally inbred if it were not for the Drow. It is the fantasy of the ulitmate evil black elf that has been bred back into itself so frequently that there is nothing left to build upon, and the entire product has become decayed with overuse and turned into an idiot child for lack of fresh perspective and ideas. It is time to lay the Drow Assassin in his grave, lay a rose on the tomb stone, and get on with our lives...er...games.
   
   CaptainPenguin Submitted: 09.12.04 22:11
   
   BRAVO!
   
   *claps for Scras' speech*
   
   EchoMirage Submitted: 09.13.04 03:08
   
   You know, GURPS has gone a long way to display a different Dark Elf - they are elves, mentally and physically the same, just for one aspect: the Dark Elves believe the Elves to be the only sentient race, and all the other races are just vermin to them, vermin that infest mother Earth. There is a need to vipe out the vermin so that Nature may prosper.
   The Dark Elves simply believe in a non-peaceful solution of humans chopping down sacred groves and dwarves despoiling nature with their industry...
   
   Ancient Gamer Submitted: 10.14.04 09:19
   
   I'll not be so hard on Artemis. Submissions such as these exist because of the low standards set by publishing houses such as WotC(and TSR before them).
   
   When you read fantasy books such as those written by R.A. Salvatore, this is what you get. It is the run and mill of official Dungeon Masterism. As Artemis has created a dark elf and an assassin... Well I can only guess he was enchanted with the ever returning assassin Artemis Entreri of the "Drizzt" series.
   
   I cannot recount the number of official modules and D&D fantasy books that have similiar (lack of) depth.
   
   Time to file a complaint with the publishing houses?
   
   MoonHunter Submitted: 10.14.04 09:57
   
   Ever read or watch the Borne Identity?
   
   Even if the character has no history, the GM should know what that history is. If the character had no "expert level" or "exotic skills" then the character could of been any old urchin off the street. People with expert and exotic skills were taught by someone, practiced on someone, and usually employed by someone. If they were an assasins, they probably killed a few people along the way. They have a past, even if they don't remember it. (Of course that past should come to haunt them).
   
   I would say to delete this, but I think the follow up dialog was more instructional than the post.
   
   EchoMirage Submitted: 10.15.04 02:24
   
   Watched it. Liked it. Actually, his missing past WAS the plot.
   

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