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#1so has anybody here seen the series firefly? it ran for only one season on FOX but then it got canceled because nobody even knew it existed. Anyway, so my brother got the season on dvd for his birthday and it is really good, in fact, the dvd sales were so good that they're making it into a movie now. I just wanted to know if anybody else has seen it. -
I have seen it.
#2I loved the show. Unfortunately the network showed the series out of order, so episode 2 was episode 1, the premire was the finale, and all in all I think the network wanted to screw over the series. They wanted a break out hit, and did not get it. Not that Buffy or any of his other series were "break out" hits, but they all developed deep and loyal fan bases that support them in syndication. -
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#3it's a awsome show and fox will be kicking themselves (if they arn't already) once the movie comes out. I personally can't wait for it, especially since they're having the origional cast. The movie will be called "Serenity" and I suggest the when it comes out in fall (I think that's when it'l be done) that everybody must go and see it. -
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#4I liked the show when I saw it, but it seemed a little out of order. -
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#5Firefly rocks. In all ways possible. -
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#6I like catching them and putting them in a jar.
If you hit them with a tennis racket they send a shower of sparks. -
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#7We have had the TV show. It was good, Shiney Good!
We have the movie. It was pretty good... it was just a two part episode in my mind. And
We have the RPG.
The RPG is pretty good. It is kind of shiney. The game system works reasonably well. It is an independent system, nothing specifically like it. It is fast and easy to use. One die for stat, one die for appropriate skill, beat the difficulty mechanics. The ship system makes sense. The crew system is okay. There is not enough background material to make the setting come alive (unlike Wheel of Time D20, Game of Thrones D20, or Buffy RPG, which you can run well without ever having seen the books/ series). Like the Babylon 5 RPG, if you don't know the series, much of the good stuff will be totally lost on you.
Still, if you are a fan... you will want the game. And the cult following extends into the RPG community. There is a ton of stuff on the net for the game. -
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#8I want the RPG so bad... Is on my list of major RPG purchases to make. -
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#9Get it sooner than later, the print run is going low.
Also get the people at your local Borders to order it. They say, they can get it in 7 days, but nobody who has ordered it from them has gotten it in under 8. And because they said it was 7, you get it for free.
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#10Well, hell, now I wish we had a Borders anywhere reasonably close. Maybe Books-a-Million can do the same thing... -
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#11I have the series and the movie on DVD. The series I think puts it in order the way it should have been but it ended way on a note that just dropped the ball. I liked the movie alot but I think like Moon said it was more like a season finale that was in two parts. It could have been much better but they just hashed it to get it done I think.
To bad there will never be another series of Firefly... Josh Weldon (?) said he is glad for the success but there will never be another Firefly done. -
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#12Firefly is quite possibly the best sci fi Ive ever seen, and the characters are definitely the greatest and most well developed characters of any sci fi, and possibly even of any TV series. Take Mal, for instance. He's deep, he's got motivations, he's flawed... he was a soldier in a war, on the losing side, and even though he's lost his faith he can't abandon the principles he once felt so strongly about. He's a tormented character, getting old, and the worlds become a hostile place. He's got defense mechanisms, but not all of them work too well anymore. He's also hilarious, witty, and a total badass.
It's worth watching just to hear Jayne's dialogue alone. Jayne makes Evil Henchmen and Generic Mercenary Thugs epic and cool.
If you havn't seen Firefly then for the love of god, sort your life out and buy the whole series pronto, it's bloody orgasmic. -
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#13:D :D :D :D :D
wow i made a thread and people responded. *self hug*
I used to get all my friends together in the dorms and we'd hang out and watch firefly *sighs* ahh, the good 'ol days -
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#14Joss Whedon is our master now. Should I ever become moderately rich (not likely) my first act would be to continue the production of Firefly, it needs to be finished. -
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#15Ah if only it were that easy.
Farscape did the same exact thing when Sci-Fi got their greedy hands on it. It went three perfect seasons with no hitch. Then Sci-Fi bought it and it barely lastest 2/3 of the fourth season. It was good, had good character developmentand a lot of humor not familiar to the states.
The Farscape community cried enough so they got a four hour mini series movie on Sci-Fi but it should have sent to the theaters. It would have been so much better.
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#16Firefly and Serenity have to be my all time favorite movie/series
Action, suspense, serious freakin comedy, lol... I own the series and the movie now, have to have watched them all so many times
"Honey, He's putting the hair AWAY now"
"It doesnt matter... It'll still be there... waiting..."
(My lil sis absolutely loves that scene and so do I)
And woah, hang on. RPG? This has until now escaped me, for the love of god tell me where to find it lol -
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#17Ah, yes, the wonder that is Shepherd Book's hair...
Check local bookstores (Borders has them, apparently), gaming stores, online... Wherever else you find gaming books -
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#18OK, I am in the fan club.
Actually seen Firefly and Serenity a while ago, just wanted to let it soak up. (Plus somehow didn't find the time for a proper homage. Bad manfred.)
It is a wonderful story, with great characters and too many funny quotes to choose from. Should get an Oscar for the dialogues only!
To give a Citadel ranking to the whole thing, it is a clear 5.0 for me. The movie seems to be a bit weaker than the series (but there is THE Message included that makes up for it), and the first few parts, as well as the last part of the series did not appeal to me as much (so only 4.0-4.5 for those). As a whole, however, it is an excellent story, a lovable series that contains so much humour, action and emotions that would dearly love to see something like that in a campaign, mine or anyone's.
As an aside, you can't help but imagine putting a character or two into an RPG - take Mr. Niska, your ideal employer for any group even slightly on the border of law. Don't you cross him, or... things will be not so solid with you. Or the Operative from the movie, another psycho and excellent opponent.
In the end, the strongest aspect is the emotional impact - it is a human story. It is also great how the most funny moments are combined with the most chilling, or sad moments. I have seen it whole two times in a row, and may see it another time again. It is worth it.
EDIT: Advice to anyone watching it - see the series first, then the movie. While the movie is fine on itself, it is much better if you know the characters and their background. -
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#19Well said! -
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#20Okay, now what?
I mean that. We have had the aborted series we love. We have had the movie (which is not going to be followed up). We even have a rpg. Is there a book series? At least Star Trek quickly spawned a number of books based upon it. But as of now, nothing is happening with it.
So are we Firefly/ Serenity fans going to go the way of Original BattleStar Galactica fans or Space 1999 fans? Before the new series, there were still a number of die hard BSG fans that loved the series, Moppets are all. They wore the jackets. They said Frac! They were dedicated because there had been nothing but a few fan fics, while Star Trek fans generated tons of them. They just hung on to it.
Are we the same?
Are we just going to hang out in odd corners of conventions dressing oddly (in costume for Firefly which few and few people will recognize), talking to the dwindling number of other fanatics (at conventions and in discussion groups), and going on about the "good old days", about how the network killed this wonderful show, about how people really don't understand it, and so on.
Now what? Do we hang on forever or find a new fad?
Just some thoughts
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#21We could always attempt to write our own Firefly books. I mean, it was fans of StarTrek that wrote those, wasn't it? And I don't know about you, but I intend to keep forcibly converting people until they take my boxed set away. -
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#22I hadn't even heard of Firefly until the movie Serenity came out. After seeing Serenity I rushed out and bought Firefly. Sad to see that the series didn't make it past season one. That is one show I would have watched religiously. -
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#24Fans writing books is what, in my opinion, crushed the Starwars expanded universe. As far as I can see, there is nothing that can be done at the moment. Besides, being small in number gives us an excuse to be elitist snobs, Like people who played 2nd edition AD&D, and that's alwayss fun! -
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#25I think one of the things going against FireFly was the opening song. I also bought the DVD set after watching the movie, Serenity, and I couldn't stand the lyrics or the tune. And since on TV you'd have to sit through it, it seems like a real show-buster.
I really hope they come out with more movies or another series, it's really awesome, but they don't explain enough! >__> -
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#26Actually, I liked the song. It fit the show and the genre mash (western+space) that was Firefly.
But then again, there is not a big cross over between CW fans and Sci-fi fans.
That also could of been part of the issue about its viewers, as most sci-fi fans have a knee-jerk reaction to westerns. Many of our fanish kin rejected the show right out, just because it was "western". By the time we could convince them otherwise, it was cancelled.
Then again, Star Trek was pitched as "Wagon Train in Space". Of course, Trek move far, far, against that listing. So I don't know why anyone would have that reaction.
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#27Hear about this yet?
http://torrentfreak.com/done-the-impossible-torrent/
Done the impossible is the story behind the rise, fall, and rebirth of the cult TV show Firefly. Firefly was ressurected thanks to efforts of the fans of this popular sci-fi show.
In the documentary “done the impossible” the fans tell their part of this success story. They explain why and how they managed to get their Firefly heroes on the white screen in the popular movie Serenity.
The makers of the documentary offer a free, Creative Commons licensed .torrent download of their film. They state:
In our opinion, the modern state of copyright is counter productive to creativity and free culture. It puts unnatural restraints on “fair use”, hinders the creative process and has fundamentally destroyed an entire industry before it was even born.
Personally I’m impressed with the quality of this documentary, I highly recommend this one if you are interested in the story behind Firefly and Serenity.
(I don't know much about all this stuff, but it seemed pertinant)
( http://www.donetheimpossible.com/index.php ) -
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#28Heard about it, but didn't get to it until now, so I had to download it and see it immediately.
A very positive feeling is coming from that documentary. :up: -
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#29I bumped Firefly to the top of my netflix cue. Can you believe I haven't seen it yet. ;)
Loved Serenity, but never thought too much about seeing the rest till after watching the documentary.
Might have to become a browncoat. :) -
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#30Hells yeah! I actually own a t-shirt proclaiming me to be a browncoat. -
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#31I loved Firefly, but the end of Serenity really turned me off. I just hate what they did my two favorite characters. It was a good movie overall, though. -
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#32Yanno, I hear a lot of that sort of thing from Harry Potter fans.
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#33If you watch that Done the Impossible thing they put out, they explain a bit why they killed 'em. -
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#34Firefly, the series:
Setting: 4/5
Storyline: 4.5/5
Thrill: 3/5
Overall: 4/5
Decent enough, though it did make me yawn now and then.
Serenity, the movie:
Setting: 4/5
Storyline: 5/5
Thrill: 4.5/5
Overall: 4.5/5
Great movie! Gotta love a director that has the balls to kill off characters. KILL YOUR DARLINGS!
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#35MoonHunter added a post about music to the Music Thread
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Challange!
#36http://www.strolen.com/guild/index.php/topic,3614.0.html
Ching Gao! I reckon, we have a number of rabid fans here. Now, it is time to pay true homage to the show. It is time to put together some shiny Firefly related submissions. Ships, NPCs, shiny tech, retro tech, and worlds, and so on. I figure there are 8 active fans here. I figure we can each put out at least two submissions related to Firefly and Serenity in relatively short order.
Just make sure to put For Firefly Campaign/ Universe as one of the first lines of the text AND to put Firefly in the free-text. -
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#37Enjoy the funny
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#38If it is true for you, you may enjoy the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hb9sk16t14